rasmussen has been slightly divergent from some of the polling -- jenna: you really know your numbers, julian. they tell us only so much, as you mentioned. being on the ground there with the appearances by both governor romney and the president, they've been to the state often, i mentioned the president 44 times as president, do these appearances really matter? do you think they're really having an impact on the ground there? >> well, as you said earlier, i mean, they excite the base. those people who are eager, who are partisans on the republican side or the democratic side, those are the people who turn up to campaign appearances. you noted the number of visits by both presidential nominees. it is also important to note that governor romney chose norfolk in august to roll out and introduce paul ryan of wisconsin as his running mate. in addition, when the president formally kicked off his re-election campaign in may, he chose virginia and ohio to do his kind of introductory campaign rallieses as well. so -- rallies as well. so those two visits in and of themselves show the priority t